Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/08/Category:Liam Wyatt by year

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Category:Liam Wyatt by year[edit]

System-search.svgSee also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/03/Category:Sunny Leone in 2002.

Pointless subcategorisation. Please stop doing this. Mike Peel (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is a lot of year categories for people in Category:Wikimedians by name by year by country and it's very usefull. I don't understand why is there a problem with this category ? Mazuritz (talk) 19:15, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Mazuritz: That entire category tree is a waste of time from my point of view. Why do you find it useful? Mike Peel (talk) 19:28, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel: It is very common and practical to categorize people's images by year (see : Category:People by name by year). It's clearer and the images are better organized, especially if there are a lot of images. --Mazuritz (talk) 07:37, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, it just makes it harder to find the good images, as you have to look through multiple subcategories rather than having them all in one category. Particularly in cases where there are fewer than 200 images (which would then show just on one page), it's a serious downside. Mike Peel (talk) 08:08, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it needs a lot of images to categorize by year. But this way you can find the most recent images... In any case, it is not this particular category that needs to be discussed, but all the categories that are in Category:People by name by year or even in Category:People by year. Mazuritz (talk) 11:22, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that there is a lot of bad practice does not justify making more of it. Arguably, we have thousands of pictures of Category:Barack Obama, which might justify organizing them by year − this is not the case for Liam Wyatt.
As for searching, you can just use Help:Category intersection. And now that Structured data is here, I’m confident we will get even fancier search function.
As for “There is a lot of year categories for people in Category:Wikimedians by name by year by country”, this is straight up misleading − I just checked a few dozen of those, and all but one had been created by you.
Jean-Fred (talk) 18:21, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is a lot of categories in Category:People by name by year and I didn't create any of them. As in other circumstances, it seems useful to categorize them. --Mazuritz (talk) 16:20, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You’re moving the goalposts: you made the claim that “There is a lot of year categories for people in Category:Wikimedians by name by year by country”, and I pointed out you created most of these ; I did not say anything about who created anything in Category:People by name by year.
As for these, again, bad practice elsewhere does not justify doing more of it (and personally I’d guess a lot of it is merely copycat categorisation). As I said, it might be justified for people with hundreds or thousands of pictures ; that does not make it valid for everything.
As for your claim of "seeming usefulness", it’s unsubstantiated. I pointed out other ways to achieve the same result (Category intersection & SDoC), which you did not answer either.
Jean-Fred (talk) 10:33, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per Mike and JeanFred. Multichill (talk) 21:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

stale discussion. @Multichill, Mike Peel, and Mazuritz: rather well populated year categories, even some subcategories. Upmerging into the parent Category:Liam Wyatt seems not a right action--Estopedist1 (talk) 22:33, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Estopedist1: I'm still watching this, though, and I still think the best solution is to merge back to the parent category - why don't you think that is the right action? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:33, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mike Peel if we merge back, then the parent category has 200+ files. After merging probably too big category and needs some kind of dispersing. "By year" dispersing is probably the best option Estopedist1 (talk) 11:00, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Per Wikimedia Commons pratices and this categories, if were deleted, would obviously be recreated in the future. Tm (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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